Hey Cowardly Bulldog,

Pull a seat up to the LOSER Buffet. There's plenty of CROW for people like you to feast on.

Along with plenty of wheat, white or rye breads (your choice) to make all of the crow sandwiches you, and the other always-bashing-the-district losers you can eat.

Oh, and I called U-Haul to give them a heads-up you'll be showing up so your sore loser, whiny backside can move.

Looks like that didn't work out for you.

I will be doing the same around 6pm, hopefully the Bettio family is there with signs.

At least he used a real name and does not hide behind "bulldog". And, how many other names do you use?

I am not Mike Barnes, sorry "bulldog".

Typical loser response: claim one person is 3-4-10 others when you have nothing else to fall back on. Which is why you keep spamming (and isn't spamming against TOS on Patch? Yeah, I thought it was).

And you are WHO again, pansy? When you get a pair (besides the ones you play with constantly) & use your name, then let us know. Until then, I'm going to have to tell your parents to disconnect access to the internet from their basement.

i don't get that either. the last levy was shot down, so they just threw it on an august ballot when they knew there'd be about a 10% voter turnout and only those that WANTED to support it would come out and do so. sneaky.

if this doesn't get passed, they'll just kick and scream until they get their way; threaten to take away services and activities until parents are inconvenienced enough to vote for it. exactly like they did last time.

this doesn't sound like democracy to me.

They put it on the ballot BECAUSE THEY CAN! This hasn't changed for decades as districts everywhere have been doing it until they no longer are able (I believe they can only put an issue on the ballot so many consecutive attempts before they have to wait).

And the last levy was NOT 'shot down' -- it passed. And there was nothing "sneaky" about it. It's just the deadbeat losers like you complainers who make up pathetic excuses/conspiracy theories when YOU don't like the outcome.

If you and the other whiny, deadbeat losers who complain constantly (esp. on here and you know who you are) about the schools don't like it and don't want to pay for them, then move to a district where most of the people don't care.

My God -- one day you'll have to tell us what it's like to be so dang stupid. Maybe you can do it as part of the Patch's "Local Voices" blog.

Jack,
Once again your comments have a very revealing attitude. Why is it that the bullies always have to come out and tell people to move. I believe I asked this once before, but I shall ask again. Are you or do you, Jack, have any ties to the administration? Or better yet, are you involved in anyway with the school district? If so, this is very scary, by your comments, that you would be allowed with anything to do with decisions concerning the students of our district.

my comments (that you've copied) were aimed at the strategy of continually re-filing the issue for another vote. A practice that I find ludicrous. I did not indicate my position on the levy itself. You assumed, I'm afraid....

Oh waaaahhh Jeanne. I'm a "bully."
Do you want some cheese with your whine, sore loser?

It must suck that someone like me lives in this community (and has a 50k-wattage access) and come along and smack you big mouths around who love to write your uneducated and accusatory Letters to the Editors. I have NO connection to the district, outside of me being a homeowner and having a child in the district.

I don't give a rats' backside if you think it's scary or not. You can pack up your crap and get the heck out if you don't like how the MAJORITY voted.

jack - i'm not talking about this levy, but the one before it. it was not passed the first time it was one the ballot (november 2010, i believe) so it was put onto the august ballot, which probably has a 10% voter turnout or something.

and don't assume anything by my comments. i voted for the levy. i just find their tactics ridiculous.

Mike, this is Donny. You know I was just teasing, at the BoE meeting. I thought we were friends. And it was a joke. I am sorry if I offended you.

This is great Terry. Well Said.

i think this is why some people oppose the renewal. foreclosed and empty homes all over stow are driving up the costs for everyone else. those people left (for whatever reason), so we get to foot the bill. how much of that has to happen before you say "ok, stop moving"?

besides that, why is it that people can't love living in stow but oppose a levy? why does it have to be your way or the highway?

People using excuses like foreclosures and/or empty homes are pathetic.

Your post is a prime example you need to educate yourself.

"I fail to understand how voting NO on this levy meant a vote against the children or the community. It is a logical fallacy to believe that this is true."

No, it's not a "logical fallacy". The ones who DO pay are the kids. That's about as ignorant as people voting "no" because the way school funding is calculated is unconstitutional, but yet fails to hold those people accountable.

"I voted NO because I do not trust the current superintendent nor the board that renewed his contract."

There are election for that.

"Because the superintendent allowed a principle who committed fraud to retire with full benefits when she should have been fired with no benefits."

This is where you need to educate yourself on procedure and law(s).

" If you are concerned about the children in this district then you should be concerned about academic fraud in this district and how it is handled. The message our children received is that if you get caught committing fraud then you can walk away with all your benefits unharmed. Great message?! Now my tax dollars are paying the benefits of a person who committed fraud… that is simply wrong!"

Again, before rambling on cluelessly, YOU need to get a clue and educate yourself and procedures and laws.

"Unless you have facts otherwise, the principle was allowed to retire with full benefits after committing fraud."

She was convicted in a court of law of said crime? Please send me the link to the court case, please.

"Do you know otherwise Jack after educating yourself? I am fully educated and well versed in Ohio law when it comes to academic fraud Jack, are you?"

Yes, I am. But clearly you are not. So, you can stop with your act like you do know. Because you're using terminology improperly.

"Yes Jack, there are elections for removing board members, there are also elections to show you have no confidence in them."

Uhh...those are the SAME elections. No different than voting for any other elected official.

"The principle should have been fired with no benefits Jack. Do you disagree with this statement Jack?"

I agree, but that's NOT how it works.

"In your “ramblings” I did not read that you think the principle should have been fired and that my tax dollars should be paying her benefits. Your post is a prime example of a person who misses the point and does not take a stand."

Nice backpedaling and trying to turn the table, but you failed. Again. I was addressing your ignorance on how things work. But, nice try TRYING to turn it around because I didn't express my opinion in the matter. Because it's irrelevant. Plus, from what I understand, she was reported to the state, which is handling that & then decides where to go from there.

Congratulations on the Levy. This is good.

I do know that she won't be able to get a job in education again, and will not be able to get a retirement package as well. I also know that "asking" someone to resign is what you do when you have to follow a procedure and report an incident for review in a matter such as this. I was curious how you know she was/is receiving benefits? I am certain this is not the case still. I do understand your point of view on this subject, but I feel this case was handled appropriately thus it didn't change my vote. You bring up good points James, I just wanted to add my thoughts.

Why don't you hold your credentials up to the screen, James-Who-Doesn't-Have-the-Balls-To-Use-A-Last-Name?

http://www.stowsentry.com/news/article/5216256
http://www.ohio.com/news/break-news/lawsuits-fly-over-stow-school-board-meetings-1.335991

From the reports I've seen, I've seen NO admittance of fraud as you've stated numerous times. So, if there are reports I'm missing to back up your constant claims, please provide a link to them. And since you apparently have no legal education as I do, I know what fraud actually (what you believe is fraud is irrelevant).

Also, it was stated that she was under investigation and when the investigation was completed, she was approached about it. Then, the next day, she turned in her resignation and announced her retirement (knowing she was busted). If you know, for a fact, that she was asked to resign or be fired, then please cite your source.
The stories also cite this is still under investigation by the state.

You were not there, therefore you are not privy to FIRST-HAND FACTS of what actually transpired the day she was approached. So, you can stop acting like you have a clue -- because you don't. And your ongoing statement of what the school "should have done" only further proves you're a moron as to process in these situations, being able to read, due process or even knowing any facts firsthand. Just like every other loser who always bashes the district. So, either back it up or shut it up.

it does go to james; at least he's stating some background info instead of just using "no, YOU'RE wrong!" as the reasoning.

however, james the head of a school is called the "principal" not "principle." so...minus one point in your victory.

The only thing goes to James is another towel to wipe the egg off his ASSuming, clueless face.

Hi Kent,

There are two major factors in a teacher’s salary, tenure and education. For Stow, 25.75% of the teachers have 0-4 years’ experience while a similar district is at 25.26%. With 4 – 10 years’ experience, Stow is at 20.55% and a similar district is at 21.09%. At 10+ years, Stow is at 53.70% and a similar district as at 53.64%. As you can see, based on tenure there is very little differentiation between Stow and the similar district averages. In education, Stow has 34.9% of its teachers with a Master’s Degree. If we were to look at Twinsburg where average salary is $65,611.55 per year, 70. 7% of the teachers have a Master’s Degree. I do not think the teachers in Stow are overpaid, I believe that based on the numbers, they are fairly paid in this market and as such this should be an area to look at for cutting costs. A full 87.02% of this districts operating costs are tied to salaries and fringe benefits. This is where money can be saved and it can be done with freezing increases over the next 3 to 5 years.

It may be also important to note that the local tax effort in Stow is 0.7314 and a similar district is lower at 0.7228. The local tax effort Index is an index that tends to reflect the extent of effort residents of school districts make in support of public primary and secondary education. In essence we are paying above the average in taxes as compared to a similar district.

Hi Kent...

I also didn't hand pick selected statistics...