Neighbor Against Marhofer's Rezoning Request: Letter to the Editor
"The large fence that Mr. Marhofer would like to erect would be less than 100-feet away from my property line," said Allyson C. Burley.
My husband and I recently purchased our home in Stow after living in nearby apartments for several years. The moment I walked into our home on Thorndale Avenue, I knew this was the place we were going to raise our future children. We are close to our family, work and just down the street from a great elementary school. We were ecstatic when we were able to move into our first home in April but our dreams quickly took a turn.
Less than a month after we were settled, we were notified that a large portion of the neighborhood we had just sunk our entire savings into was going to be demolished for a parking lot. The large fence that Mr. Marhofer would like to erect would be less than 100-feet away from my property line. Instead of looking out my kitchen window and seeing decades-old trees, I will see a large white fence with a few “new, green” trees.
I understand that the Marhofer family has contributed greatly to the city of Stow; however, I find it disturbing that the Planning Commission is actually considering changing the zoning codes to benefit one business.
What kind of precedent does this set for the rest of the community? To me, it says the zoning codes do not exist to protect residents and businesses; they are there to suit the needs of the few with money and power and can be changed on a whim.
I strongly urge you to do everything within your power to prevent this from happening. I hope that I do not end up regretting my choice to invest in this community.
Sincerely,
Allyson C. Burley
To submit a letter to the editor, email local editor Amanda Harnocz.
jiim may
7:10 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Lol, are you kidding!!! Maybe you should have put more thought into buying that house. You sound like the people in springfield that built their house right on springfield lake. They tried to ban motorized boat, because they are to noisy or the people who build houses on mountains in a landslide area and then cry when slides occure. Duh!!!!!!!!!!
Doug Burley
12:50 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
If you actually read the letter, you would realize that she is not saying there is a problem with the dealership as it is, she is saying there is a problem with them sprawling half way up the street. When the house was purchased, the issue didn't exist.
Ed Fisher
9:35 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Allyson, I understand your concerns. I don't live in your neighborhood, but I pass through with my dog on our morning walks and I find it to be a wonderfully quiet and well kept area. Pay absolutely no attention to comments by jiim may. He speaks for no one except his own miserable self. However, on the subject of Marhofer and their plans, I offer this: I find no reason why they can't spare most of the old growth trees when they expand. Build their parking AROUND them. Small green space areas within their property would be a visually pleasing and responsible thing. Require the fence to be aesthetically pleasing and in concert with the neighborhood. And let's be honest here....during my travels through your area, I never have been AUDIBLY aware of the dealership. They don't make objectionable noise that will impact your home. This business has been here for almost 100 years. They have a major standing in our community that affects all of us. Within reason, I believe we owe some accommodation to Marhofer that will allow them to continue to thrive here. They are as much a part of Stow as you and I. So instead of treating them as an adversary, let's treat them as they really are......neighbors. Be reasonable and help find common ground.
jiim may
9:50 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Dont be a hater or get jealous Ed
jiim may
10:22 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Lol. First off the line came from forest gump. How is that dangerpus. please enlighten
Sort through the Facts
10:28 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Would be interesting to see that same photo in February when the trees are bare with no leaves, or if a storm would hit and knock out even just one of the pines. Marhofer is a good neighbor to all of us in the city, and we are happy he wants to continue to invest in Stow and not move elsewhere. I agree with Ed, treat him as a neighbor not an adversary.
jiim may
10:29 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
if people make comments and can't take criticism on their comments, then they should not be making comments
jiim may
10:43 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Move over dr. Phil here comes dr. Ed or is it mr. Ed
Teresa K.
11:48 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
@allyson: it is very disturbing that a planning commission would even consider changing the zoning codes for a PARKING LOT. I hope the thought of tax dollars doesnt override good common sense here.
growth and developement of communites are great at long as zoning boards and planning commisssions dont forget about families.
Ed Fisher
12:54 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Have you seen the proposed plans for the Marhofer expansion ? Of course you haven't. There is more than a parking lot involved here. Worry about things in Kent. Leave Stow concerns to us.
Teresa K.
2:32 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
@ed: would my comment be ok if I had family that lived close by to marhofers? the proposed plans are absolutely horrifying to me and I can only imagine how the neighbors near Marhofers feel.
Carol Tymchenko
8:39 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Thank you Teresa. A person with compassion for the little people:)
Doug Burley
12:58 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
If he was simply trying to expand under the existing codes, that would be one issue, however under the existing codes, his proposed expansion would not be allowed. What is happening here is that the city planning commission is considering changing the zoning codes to suit this one business. That is setting a very dangerous precedent that if you contribute enough money, the laws don't apply to you and can be changed to whatever you want. Zoning codes are there to protect existing residents and businesses, not to be arbitrarily changed at the whim of major financial contributers.
Ed Fisher
2:09 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Doug. Because of the location of the dealership, the size of the expansion CAN'T be accomplished under existing code. Hence, the need for modification. Marhofer Chevrolet is a good community citizen with no intent to harm Stow. Your comment "That is setting a very dangerous precedent that if you contribute enough money, the laws don't apply to you and can be changed to whatever you want." seems inappropriate given their history in Stow and this current attempt to work with city government within the structure of law.
Teresa K.
2:29 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Doug: i agree with you and allyson 100%. If he was merely expanding w/ in his current codes-- good for him. But if the zoning codes and/or city maps need to be changed, there is a definite problem. ALL Stow residents should be watching this situation closely. The codes in every city were put in place to protect all: residents and businesses.
This will end up being a case of profit over people. Stow needs to be prepared for the fallout of whichever party they side with on this. Green space and fences only hide what is- they dont change it.
I'm thinking it would have been cheaper and kinder of Marhofer's to have just bought an appropriately zoned property with more land and built elsewhere.
Carol Tymchenko
8:37 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Well said.
jiim may
1:09 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
When money is envolved laws and regulations go by the way side. Just figuring that out. Good if marhofer grows, here comes more jobs. Oh wait thats a bad thing. Duh
jiim may
1:10 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Leave me alone, big bully. Lol
scottswear
1:36 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
it seems Jim May has was to much time on his hands he may need one of those jobs , and in this economy why the heck would they need to expand no one is buying anything.
jiim may
9:22 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012
Have to spend money to make money, bozo
vbinder
1:45 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Don't you have anything else to do Jiim....DUh...
Sort through the Facts
2:03 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
The Marhofer business was at its current location in Stow before those zoning codes were even established. His business was grandfathered in. There is even a street named Marhofer in Stow, if that says how long he has been here. This is a most appropriate time to update those codes and allow him to redevelop. We want growth in Stow. Planning commission, make the call to support him.
Doug Burley
2:28 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
I don't think anyone has an issue with the business being grandfathered in or continuing to operate or even redevelop within its existing footprint. The issue I have is with changing the codes to allow an "incompatable" business use to encroach on an existing residential area. Why not expand to some of the existing unoccupied commerical property in the city?
Sort through the Facts
2:41 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
My comments are my opinion - I don't intend to defend my point of view because you are trying to promote your agenda. Maybe you, Mr. Burley, can build a garage down the street from where you live and use it to park your car and then walk home - using other "available" space in the city for your purposes. Or, maybe you can build a shed to store your lawnmower on property on a street other than where you live. How practical is that. (Please don't answer, really.)
Mike Barnes
2:49 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
We have lived in Munroe Falls for over 20 years and drive by Marhofer Chevrolet at least once a day. It is pretty clear the area needs improvement. Tearing down the old City Building and building CVS was a good start, followed by razing the buildings on the NE corner. The flood from a few years ago did a great job of cleaning out the SE corner. Looking at it now the oil change place is vacant, the pizza shop (great pizza) looks shabby Marhofer Chevrolet looks outdated crowded and drab. Yukon Rd. needs work and frankly some houses on Thorndale are not looking good either. I think there are at least a couple vacant homes and a realtor friend told me one house is in foreclosure. It might be interesting to look at the property tax records and see how much tax income is currently coming from the proposed development area. I am thinking the best plan would be to clean up the area and let Marhofer enjoy a new lease on life --- and new opportunities to continue the “give back” the family has done for so many years. Keeping the area the same seems like a real step backwards.
Carol Tymchenko
8:34 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Mike, so you're saying that since the homes on Thorndale, in your opinion "are not looking good", and we pay less property taxes than you might, our rights on Thorndale don't count? That's a good reason in your mind to amend city rules? I am a realtor also, and there are vacant and foreclosed homes throughout our city. At the planning meetings, Marhofer could not guarantee this expansion would create more jobs. And his new building is not giving him any additional square footage, just a prettier building. I would like to see your reaction when the city gives a company permission to take over half of your street. There are so many vacant commercial properties within our city that would fit his needs, however, more costly than paying off a few homeowner's. The city has restrictions in place for a reason. It's "rich man vs poor man" and "you can't fight city hall". We will not give up our street without a fight. Even though we may be fighting a loosing battle. We are trying to protect our homesteads, our investment we have worked very hard for (although don't look nice enough to you). We have children that play on our street. It's a neighborhood. We don't want an auto mile and neither would you.
jiim may
8:27 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Well said mike barns on both accounts. Great pizza and great idea to expand and grow
Carol Tymchenko
9:00 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
For more information regarding Marhofer's request, go to this website.... It has architectural plans you can also view.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/savethorndale/
Sort through the Facts
9:18 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Isn't General Motors requiring this of Marhofer in order to maintain his franchise? I saw this on the facebook page Support Ron Marhofer Redevelopment in Stow. It's not a choice of rich vs. poor; it's a matter of supporting a longtime community business that the city relies on so that the city doesn't become poor. That's in the best interest of ALL residents regardless of income level.
jiim may
9:35 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Applaud applaud
Carol Tymchenko
9:49 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
They are requiring him to spruce it up. If he needs more room, there are multiple vacant commercial properties. Comments from Anonymous "Sort Through Facts'....why are you such a coward to not show your name. Your comments are irrelevant as a faceless contributor.
Sort through the Facts
9:54 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
But you answer my comments because they are valid. :-)
jiim may
10:07 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Carol, dont be a hater
jiim may
10:14 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Bring in the dozers!!!!!!
David Barnewall
10:19 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
No one seems to know all the facts unless you are directly involved! Most of the residents such as myself want marhofer to stay and thrive. We don't want our neighborhood to be sacrificed for that to happen. Marhofer chose taking homes in a nice quiet older neighborhood with trees that block all the sound and light over all other options. He did approach the businesses on Kent road with low ball purchase offers and I'm assuming it would be cheaper to take a few homes instead. Everyone involved on the citys side seems to be afraid that marhofer will leave if he doesn't get everything he wants. If Ron is such a great guy and so good to the city then where is his compromise? Not once has he tried to get our input as what we would like as planning commision suggested or a plan b
jiim may
10:36 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
You people kill me, instead of wasting time on here you should be talking to the city. Wow, everyone itching,ithcing and itching (insert b) on a site that has 0 effect on anything. P.S. Tick tick times awaisting, i hear the dozers!!!!
David Barnewall
10:39 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
:)
S. Martin
5:05 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Congratulations to jiim may for finding a voice on stowpatch.com, next stop Newsweek!!!!
jiim may
7:33 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Dont be a hater
jiim may
10:44 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Martin, you sure added some informative and intelligent info. Thanks
joe ponikarovsky
2:58 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
so...didn't marhofer go out of business a few years back? or was on the verge of it? (one of the dealerships that GM wanted to/did close, from my understanding.) anyone ever given any thought to what would happen if they actually did close, after this expansion? we'd have this HUGE parking lot right in the middle of stow sitting vacant. another eyesore just like the plaza down the road (the big lots/macy's plaza, whatever it's called). maybe they should just go take over that plaza, level it and build their business there if they need so much space.
Ed Fisher
6:03 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Let's see..........Marhofer has been here almost 100 years. And now, they want to invest dollars in an expansion. And you're worried that they're going to go out of business ? Based on what ? Do you know how ludicrous that sounds ? One of the reasons that GM pulled their Chevy franchise was due to the small, antiquated facility. Even though their sales were the highest in the area. So now they want to grow in a town that petitioned GM for their re-instatement. This controversy just amazes me, really.
David Barnewall
6:41 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
We want them to grow, but not into one of the first residential neighborhoods of stow. He could expand along Kent road which would give him more exposure anyway, but for some reason he chose to take a different option and go up a back street and change one the original stow neighborhoods
jiim may
9:49 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Amazes me also
jiim may
11:09 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012
@ ed, thanks you just proved my point and basically called him a moron. Good job
Carol Tymchenko
5:43 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
We have reason to believe that "Sort Through the Facts" is one of the Thorndale residents under contract to sell their home to Marhofer.
jiim may
9:24 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012
I hear the dozers approaching, down come the homes